Börsipäev 24-25. jaanuar - NFLX, SLAB rallivad

Rev Shark:

The Bottom Will Come, but Don't Try to Call It
1/24/05 8:35 AM ET

"My success just evolved from working hard at the business at hand each day."

-- Johnny Carson

Trading the stock market for a living is a bit different than most other jobs, because success isn't always a function of working hard and staying busy. In the stock market it is extremely important not to be active at certain times. When the market is not favoring your particular style of trading, staying busy and working hard at making trades is counter-productive.

For ambitious, hard-driving investors who enjoyed a solid year in 2004, it can be tremendously frustrating to sit idly by as they wait for more favorable conditions. Many are intent on trying to catch the very moment that the market turns. They react swiftly to the first sign of improvement in the market action, and over and over again they end up being too early and are stopped out for another loss.

The psychology of the stock market encourages us to be impatient in seeking out a bottom in the market. Most of us prefer to be active rather than sitting around doing nothing while we wait. The bias toward staying busy pushes us to act prematurely. "Boredom" trades are often a costly way to spend our time in a poor market environment.

There are other factors at work that push investors to overanticipate market bottoms. First, traditional Wall Street has a strong bias toward keeping us fully invested. Folks who are holding cash are more inclined to withdraw it, and that is not something that mutual funds and brokerages want to see.

Second, being a "master of market timing" is another reason many market participants err on the side of being too early. If you are going to nail the exact bottom of the market you have to be anticipatory. You can't be the "master of market timing" if you wait until there is a clear bottom in place and things have begun to turn back up.

It is very tough for most of us to stay patient and resist this temptation. Serial "bottom-calling" becomes a plague in a market like this and can cost you a lot. It is extremely important to focus on protecting capital right now. If you are going to play the bottom-calling game then make sure you are very aggressive at cutting losses quickly.

Sooner or later the market will turn back up and produce a sustained rally. When that happens there generally is plenty of time to get on board. More often than not the cost of being a little late to the party is far less than trying to catch the exact moment that it starts. Stay patient. This market is not healthy.

Once again we have a very tentative start to the day. Oil is trading up as winter storms slam the Northeastern U.S. Overseas markets are showing little life. We have a lot of earnings reports due this week but many of the heavy hitters have already reported. There aren't a lot of news catalysts right now so that will keep market participants cautious.

Gary B. Smith:

Gapping Up

EELN +36% (announces deal with eBay), COCO +14% (announces termination of SEC inquiry, no enforcement action recommended; up in sympathy: CECO +2.6%), CNLG +13% (gets orders from major utilities for hardware), NGPS +12.5% (guides higher), IMMU +10% (started with $8 tgt at Rodman & Renshaw), MERQ +8.7% (guides higher), ALDN +6.1% (reports Q4), LM +5.7% (reports DecQ), SIRI +4.8% (reinstated with a Buy at Merrill Lynch; tgt $7.50; announces deal with Interscope Geffen A&M Records), LVS +3.4% (three initiations of coverage).... Under $3: PARS +10.4% (receives milestone payment from Bausch & Lomb), CCUR +8.6% (Needham upgrade).

Gapping Down

TZOO -12% (reports Q4; provides info to SEC concerning trading in the stock), CMTN -27% (says it will lay off most of its existing employees), STEM -8.6% (Stem Cell Lines Reported Contaminated - AP), ASTM -6.8% (same), GERN -3.9% (same), ADSK -4.7% (cut to Sell at BofA), CCMP -4.7% (Lehman downgrade), RIMM -1.8%.

According TrimTabs forecast we could have outflows of -$3 billion for January. This would be the second time in 15 years that January cash flowed out. That other year was 2003 and investors stayed on the sidelines while waiting for the Iraq invasion to begin. In January 2004 there were inflows of +44 billion. The -$3B was for all funds and the number is worse for those funds that only invest in the U.S. Those funds are on track for a -$6.8B outflow for the month.

Minu küsimus oleks selline - kuskohakst peaks tekkima turule see BID, mis edasisest langusest päästab? Pigem on nii, et kui täna pärast optsioonireedet langusse pööratakse, on fondid taas müügipoolel ja lühikese possu poistel hurraa! Lisame siia veel nafta...
Mõmmik, kas sul on maatriksil bug sees - deja vu - jookse lähimasse telefoniputkasse muidu saavad agendid veel kätte :D
NAINE CHATIS!!!!
Indeksid on pigem seisma jäänud, seega täna chatis veidi elulisemad teemad :

[henno viires] tere, kas see on nende meeste jutukas, kes 100% kuus teenivad_
[henno viires] ?
[kaye] :D... ja yhe naise
[klepik] soovitan siis kõigil veidi viisakamat sõnavara tarvitada, kui naisterahvad ka
chatis :)
[kaye] jah ei olegi enam ainult meestmängumaa
[klepik] väga tore!
[sahtel] cramer: "Buy the Intel January 22.5 calls, position limit", -100%
[spunk123] sooh, naised chatis - tea kas see toob head voi halba onne?:)
[jim] naine chatis, optsioonid põhjas
[fit] äkki kaye on sama palju naine kui bettie:)
[spunk123] aga kuidas me seda teada saame? Kusiks mingeid numbreid (vanust
muidugi mitte) voi seda, kas talle lilled meeldivad?:)
[kaye] orhideed aitäh
[LHV CHAT] Kasutaja zelinski tuli sellesse kanalisse.
[LHV CHAT] Kasutaja erki kert tuli sellesse kanalisse.
[solver] LHV inside info oleks ehk abiks :)
[kaye] ja ütle mulle üks mees kellele orhideed meeldivad kui küsida
[spunk123] kinganumber on ikka alla 42, Kaye?
[fit] kamoon mis küsimused
[fit] iga feikija võib sellele hästi vastata
[fit] a ytle mis on head looduslikud kehakreemid:)
Semi equipmenti tootjatega on lood endiselt kehvad. Eriti nukker näeb välja Applied Materials'i (AMAT) graafik, kus reedel sulguti madalaimal tasemel alates 2003. aasta juunist. Kui täna päeva lõpus just imepärast kosumist ei tule, tähistab sulgumine taas madalaimat taset väga pikal perioodil. Võitlus käib ühesõnaga olulistel tasemetel.

Sama lugu ka Altera'ga (ALTR), mis veel napilt septembri põhjadel püsib.
Amati esimesel neljal aktsion'ril on keskmine 16/17 ja putid on plussis.
january effect on saanud uue tähenuse nasdaq indeksit vaadates :)
kuradi karud ma ütlen...
16:05 NFLX prelim $0.14 vs $0.10 consensus; revs $144 mln vs $139.6 mln consensus

Asi 10% üleval.

sB
16:07 NFLX sees Q1 revs of $149-$154 mln, consensus $144.6 mln; sees full yr of rev of $700-730 mln vs $678 mln consensus

16:08 NFLX reports SAC of $35.61, vs street expectation $37-38

Viimane number eriti röömustav.

sB
Mõlemad straddle ideed (NFLX, SLAB) lendavad täna kõvasti ülespoole, sulgemine jääb homsesse.

NFLX +14%, SLAB +16%.
Hiina:
GDP 9,5% 2004
CPI 3,6% (2003 1,2%)
Retails sales 13.3%
Eilne järelturg pakkus straddle omanikele meeldivalt suuri liikumisi ning kui NFLX ja SLAB liikusid kohe, siis täiendava ideena saabunud FILE seisis pikalt tulemuste peale paigal. Kuid kui hiljem tulid prognoosid, siis nende peale kukkus aktsia võimsalt - $21.5 juurde, mis peaks olema kasumiks piisav.

Seega täna on hoolega sulgemist ning nagu ikka, sõltub müügihetkest päris palju. Täpsemad kommentaarid enne päeva algust LHV Pro all.
klepik, suured tänud ilusate ideede eest! :)

kas kahjumisse jäävad straddle-i positsioonid (NFLXi ja SLABi puhul siis putid) tuleks üldjuhul esimesel võimalusel likvideerida või tasub ka nendega oodata paremat hetke päeva jooksul?

Ise pakun et tasub veitsa oodata.Puttide eest v6ib saada ka t2itsa talutava kopika,kui ainult n2rvi j2tkub.
Rahast väljas asjade realiseerimisega peale tulemusi on kiire siis, kui optsioonireede väga lähedal. Kuna antud näidete puhul on optsioonireede väga kaugel, siis sedavõrd kiire pole.

Eelturul eile tulemused avaldanud straddle ideed

NFLX +14,00%

SLAB +19,54%

Tänaseid tulemusi ...

Enne turgu: Johnson & Johnson (JNJ), Merck (MRK), Merrill Lynch (MER), Schering-Plough (SGP), Xerox (XRX), EMC Corp (EMC), Lone Star Tech (LSS), Tellabs (TLAB) jpt.

Peale turgu: Avaya (AV), Computer Associates (CA), E*Trade (ET), Electronic Arts (ERTS), Flextronics (FLEX), Integrated Silicon (ISSI), Kraft Foods (KFT), RedEnvelope (REDE), RF Micro Device (RFMD), Sirenza Micro (SMDI), Storage Tech (STK), Texas Instruments (TXN), Vitesse Semi (VTSS).

Merck inline - EPS 0.50 vs. ootus 0.50

Merrill Lynch ületas - EPS 1.19 vs. ootus 1.10

Schering-Plough mixed - EPS -0,03 vs. ootus 0.00, käive 2184 vs ootus 2069
Netflixi (NFLX)'i koha pealt pean ütlema, et vägagi positiivne üllatus. Pea kõik näitajad omasid positiivset trendi. Hetkel käib võitlus turuosa pärast.

sB